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link CaribbeanCricket.com Joined: Mar 6, 2003
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CaribbeanCricket.com news analysis

The West Indies Cricket Board brought an inglorious end to the One Day International and Twenty20 career of legendary batsman Shivnarine Chanderpaul. Now politics and the quest for power form a lethal combination which threatens to bring to a closure the Test career of Guyana’s finest modern batsman.

Cricket in Guyana is hurtling down a fatal precipice and the madness threatens to claim Shiv as its first and most notable victim.
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link Larr Pullo Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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Shiv reading this and the concentration vein in his forehead getting larger and larger. Like yuh want to mek the man stroke out!!!

link ToldUSo Joined: Feb 11, 2009
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It's a good rule by the WICB and I would support it, but there must be exceptions for some players. Make it so a player could play one match to qualify.

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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go play for the WWI

link Joshua Joined: Apr 1, 2008
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In reply to Larr Pullo

larr why you writing these sensationalist articles? shiv has a bpl contract anyway too.

icc will not be imposing sanctions. secondly the icc rules unless somebody can correct me is regarding its members and the running of the members affairs. i dont see any government interference in the wicb's running of cricket. i also have read the icc articles of assosciation and at no time does it mention the guyana cricket board. it only mentions its full member which is the west indies cricket board.

link seaegg99 Joined: Apr 6, 2005
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Why not play for CCC until such problems are ironed out?

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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IF SHIV EH play regional

the wicb will be too ready to drop him

link Joshua Joined: Apr 1, 2008
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this is the relevant article in the icc articles of assosciation. the reference to the member is the west indies cricket board in this case. cany anybody highlight to me how the imc in guyana is a violation of the icc rules when the guyana cricket board is not defined as a member of the icc?


Independence of Member boards
(A) Members must provide for (a) free elections and/or (b) appointments from
amongst their members for their executive body or nominees from outside their
members appointed by their executive body. This obligation shall be included in
their statutes. Where there is no such provision or where the Executive Board
considers an executive body of a Member not to have been established by free
elections and/or appointments as indicated above, the Executive Board shall
have the power to suspend or refuse to recognise such Member or its executive
body (including an executive body set up on an interim basis), subject to the
provisions of Article 2.7.

(B) Where a government interferes in the administration of cricket by a Member,
including but not limited to interference in operational matters, the selection and
management of teams, the appointment of coaches or support personnel or the
activities of a Member, the Executive Board shall have the power to suspend or
refuse to recognise that Member, subject to the provisions of Article 2.7.

link birdseye Joined: Mar 24, 2004
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The ICC, following on from precedent set by FIFA and the IOC has begun its move to formalize the purification of cricket from political interference.

I don’t remember the ICC complaining when the government was shelling out millions of dollars to upgrade facilities for the World cups in the Caribbean and elsewhere – if the ICC is going to be so puritanic – then maybe next time they and their cricket underlings will foot all stadium bills, security/police bills – what is this BS that ICC will conveniently use you government infrastructure and any resource they deem useful – but said Government cant have any say

link Admin Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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Hunte and Hilaire will want to tread carefully on this "government involvement" thing. We (and they) both know why.

_r

link Joshua Joined: Apr 1, 2008
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based on these rules i fail to see how the guyana imc is in violation of the icc rules when there has been no interference in the administration of the "Member" which is the west indies cricket board.

link jen Joined: Jan 4, 2008
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In reply to birdseye Dude, anyone with a brain can understand why people want to make sure governments don't have much involvement with the functioning of a sporting body.

All you need to know is that all governments are corrupt, that will be the first reason why!

link WestDem Joined: Jan 21, 2009
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Hunte and Hilaire will want to tread carefully on this "government involvement" thing. We (and they) both know why.


1000% true!!!and I bet you Larr is also aware of this! cool

link birdseye Joined: Mar 24, 2004
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Dude, anyone with a brain can understand why people want to make sure governments don't have much involvement with the functioning of a sporting body.
I am quite comfortable with my brain-less assertions – thank u very much……. If you know anything about WICB then the only reason you could have seriously made that government corrupt comment is to see your writing in print or that you are equally brainless

link Surya Joined: Jul 12, 2005
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Just using Shiv's name to sensationalize the power struggle! The devious intent of the article is obvious.

link Runs Joined: Jan 4, 2003
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In reply to Surya wink

link Admin Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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You don't see this as a legit end result?

_r

link WestDem Joined: Jan 21, 2009
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Chanderpaul is closing in on the finish line of his illustrious career but politics and power may just be conspiring to get him there faster than he and the fans would like. And certainly faster than the West Indies team itself can afford. It will be a sad and regrettable end to a career which already has not been given its fair due.


If Larr is indeed the author of this article, this right here is de most honest thing he probably typed EVER and it is probably still paining him to have to be put in this situation!!! lol lol lol

link Surya Joined: Jul 12, 2005
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Even if it is, it's a narrow angle to view the problem from and clearly seeks to whip emotions up (could very well be the purpose)!

link openning Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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I am against any government involvement in a private affair, the members of the cricket clubs in Guyana should determine its destiny.

link birdseye Joined: Mar 24, 2004
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You don't see this as a legit end result?
Oh so fortuitous for the WICB – now they cannot be criticized for doing what they really wanted to do – unpopular as it may be – their hands are tied with one dege-dege little rubber band.

link WestDem Joined: Jan 21, 2009
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I am against any government involvement in a private affair, the members of the cricket clubs in Guyana should determine its destiny.


Do you fully understand what cause the IMC to be created? BTW if anything in any country is affecting the citizen of that country its no longer a private affair...the law of the land is there for a reason!!!

link birdseye Joined: Mar 24, 2004
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don’t worry Shiv – Jamaica will give you a green card and expedited citizenship ……. Didn’t shiv invest in a restaurant in Mandeville? That already qualifies him to play fi yaad
lol

link mikesiva Joined: Jan 12, 2007
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I think you're jumping the gun a bit here....

Where has the ICC actually said that they back the WICB on this? Could the WICB/GCB be bluffing?

I don't see a similarity between this case and the oft-cited ICL cases of Shane Bond and Brian Lara.

This could be a matter for Ramnarine and his lawyers to sort out.
cool

link doosra Joined: May 26, 2004
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he deh a Dominica aready

vor dem done seh big grin

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